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Anyone out there know any Greek, Italian, or Latin? I have some short phrases I need translated and would appreciate any help and pointers to translation resources (other than the obvious machine translations online). The name of a friendly university Classics professor would be ideal.

UPDATE: Looks like I have at least two possible connections, and may even get some historical text woven into one section for verisimilitude. Thanks to everyone who responded.

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brother_che
Aug. 10th, 2005 09:29 pm (UTC)
wish I could help -- I can still read Italian, but my composition sucks and my Latin has always sucked. What phrases are you looking for?

As for the Italian -- are you looking for Venetian Italian? 'Cause that'll be a lot harder to translate than "common" Italian, which is based more on Tuscan.
the_monkey_king
Aug. 10th, 2005 11:03 pm (UTC)
Technically, yeah, I'm looking for Venetian Italian and/or Neapolitan dialect. I've got a few words in the dialect from various sources, but ... I'll go with "standard" Italian if I have no choice.

brother_che
Aug. 11th, 2005 02:06 am (UTC)
With Neapolitan, you can probably get away with Tuscan (standard), but not Venetian -- anyone who knows Italian will look at it and see something amiss; Venetian is a truly odd version, with carry-overs from the other side of the Adriatic.

That being said, I'd contact the Italian department at the UW -- they've almost certainly got someone who can help with Venetian.

As for the Greek -- what period? If it's renaissance Venice, I'm guessing fairly late medieval/renaissance Greek? Don't forget that's going to be quite a bit different from modern Greek, as well as Attic or Koine. That might be harder to chase down, but you could probably locate someone who can help online.

As for the latin -- what flavor? I mean, rather, what time period is the latin from? Medieval, Church, or Classical. Easier to chase down than the Greek, though.
the_monkey_king
Aug. 11th, 2005 04:34 am (UTC)
I've been keeping a file of common words in Italian and Venetian, and yeah, the differences are pretty clear to the eye. If you think I might be in luck at the UW, I'll give them a try. Unfortunately, they aren't in session, and I imagine a lot of the faculty is on vacation right now.

The Greek is a spell/invocation, so it can be ancient, since magical formulae can be expected to be more tradition-bound than everyday speech. What are Attic and Koine?

The Latin is Church or military Latin: think knightly orders. So it could be Church or Medieval, I suppose.
brother_che
Aug. 11th, 2005 06:14 pm (UTC)
The good thing about the Italian is that everything you'd need can be done by email and the web -- and the UW isn't the only place that's probably got someone online about Venetian. And most of the faculty, unless they're off doing research, are probably available by email -- even if they're not teaching, they're still probably working.

Good idea with the Greek -- hell, you can pull in Homeric greek if you want, or even mix things a bit with a spell/invocation. Unless it's Christian in nature, that is. Koine is biblical Greek -- 1st/2nd century CE. Attic is what most people think of when you say classical Greek. It's the most common dialect you see in classical writings, because it's the language of the Attic peninsula and thus Athens, but there are others.

For knightly orders, I'd stick to Church latin -- medieval latin is a nasty little bastardization that ends up being used primarily in secular areas. And at least the church keeps it up, in some semblance of order and uniformity. I'm not kidding about the nasty part, either, with regard to medieval latin -- I worked through a couple of hundred 7th & 8th century Italian legal documents in Latin for my Master's -- ended up having to go to a Roman History prof for help with some of the latin, and even he had trouble -- said it was the worst latin he'd ever had to read. But for a knightly order, I'd think Church latin would fit best anyway...

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