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4E Stats Leak

Interesting, a stat card for 4th Edition. Looks like the 3E trend back toward the minis/wargaming roots is continuing. It reads almost like a 1974 Chainmail unit card.


Oct. 14th, 2007 04:24 pm (UTC)
Oh, and I'd like to add my recommendation for miniatures. They do add a valuable tactical element to combat - I've known players who complained that non-miniatures combat is just a matter of throwing down dice to see how many hit points and spells each encounter costs you.

The drawback to miniatures is that they're expensive. I'll take the Dungeon adventure "Raiders of the Black Ice" as an example: in a relatively short adventure, the minis count runs as such: twelve snow goblins, eight worgs, six tiny snowflake lichens, four small snow spiders, three human zombies, three "frost folk" including one wizard, a custom fey, a Huge wooly mammoth, a medium snow spider, a dire wolf, and Oskari Lodestar - perhaps forty distinct miniatures, one of which is Huge sized. On top of this you have minis for the players, any human allies or hirelings they recruit, and any creatures they summon.

So there's an economic issue with minis. Combats may run thick and fast in 4e, but the focus on miniatures could be costly. Alternatively, we're going to see 90% of gaming groups playing "pretend this orc is a zombie".
Oct. 14th, 2007 04:55 pm (UTC)
Well, sure, expensive minis is the reason why WotC needs them to become as central to the game as possible. They are a better way of parting gamers from their dollars than, say, sourcebooks or adventures. So it makes sense that they will continue to make them.

I enjoy the tactical side of minis at a low level, but I'm with the "these green dice are orcs" crowd. I can't be bothered to buy, sort, and organize the things, though I appreciate those who do.
Oct. 14th, 2007 06:21 pm (UTC)
I like minis, both painted metal and plasticrack, but one of my best RPG purchases ever is Fiery Dragon's Counter Collection CDRom. Every monster in the SRD, tons of PC-types and lots more for you to print out on your inkjet. I can't recommend it highly enough. And for those pesky WotC non-OGL monsters, they put all the art on their website!
Oct. 15th, 2007 09:34 am (UTC)
This is precisely the challenge Wizards faces: if even dedicated dungeon masters tend to make do without the right minis, who's going to buy them?

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