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4E Black Humor

Funny Onion-styles news report over at pats_quinade, Fourth Edition D&D Kills 3, Wounds 1.

The wailing and gnashing of teeth is getting a little out of hand for a game no one but a few playtesters have seen yet.


Nov. 11th, 2007 07:03 am (UTC)
You're right, Wizards does have itself to blame for how poorly received fourth edition is - I can't help wonder if this could have been handled better. That said, they've certainly left enough time between now and then, so I'm somewhat optimistic that the anti-4e brigade will burn themselves out on 4ed hate by the time it actually arrives.
Nov. 11th, 2007 07:18 am (UTC)
Yeah, but there's two kinds of burnout possible.

One is the grognard path of "Damn kids, I'm fed up and from now one I'm ignoring your shiny nonsense". The other is "Ok, I'm all out of hate. What's this thing actually do well, if anything? Convince me."

It's not entirely one side or the other: the most extreme fandom is ... unhinged over a game they haven't seen yet. And WotC seems to be stoking the flames as often as they are calming the fears.

Could go either way. Long-winded way of agreeing with you. :)
Nov. 11th, 2007 02:49 pm (UTC)
One is the grognard path of "Damn kids, I'm fed up and from now one I'm ignoring your shiny nonsense".

That's me. I'm too old and too exhausted to deal with the latest fashions in fantasy. Unlike a lot of people, I didn't start playing D&D in the late 70s because it was the only game in town (it wasn't) but because I liked the particular kind of fantasy that inspired its creators. Each subsequent edition of the game gets more and more away from the Howard, Leiber, and Vance and 4E, from the little we've seen, has been presented as positively contemptuous of it. So that's it for me; I'm done.
Nov. 11th, 2007 04:04 pm (UTC)
Every new edition is a great time to start with a game, or a great time to drop one.

I did the same thing with L5R. Samurai Edition rolled around, and I just never picked it up.
Nov. 11th, 2007 04:22 pm (UTC)
That's a very sound and reasonable approach, I think. It's possible I might change my mind at some point in the years to come, after the full extent of what 4E is and is not becomes apparent, but I doubt it. After 25+ years of purchases, there's really not a lot anyone can sell me for D&D that's not just gilding the lily.

(Except periodicals and the occasional adventure. I'd love to see more of that kind of stuff)
Nov. 11th, 2007 04:36 pm (UTC)
I'll keep making magazines as long as people are buying them.

I think that the discontent from veterans is probably fine for the WotC business managers. The average "gaming lifespan" of a D&D player is about 4 or 5 years, so the rest of us are huge exceptions to the rule.
Nov. 11th, 2007 07:06 pm (UTC)
The 4-5 year turnover seems about right. That's why I have a hard time getting angry at WotC anymore. Their priorities as a business are not my priorities as a gamer Now that I fully realize and accept this, I can just move and be happy about it. Truth be told, I probably should've done so sooner than I did.

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